Budget Watch, “Focus on defense budgets leaves Coast Guard high and dry” –The Hill

“The Hill” has a plea for passing the Coast Guard’s 2019 budget rather than relying on continuing resolutions.

It makes a good point that time will be short.

“Unfortunately, the Coast Guard budget did not get reported to the House until Sept. 12, 2018.  This is an issue because the House and Senate now are out until Nov. 13. After the election, they will have only 12 workdays before the CR ends on Dec. 7, 2018 (Pearl Harbor Day).”

Considering there is likely to be a lot of churn, particularly in the House, those twelve days are likely to very busy. Hopefully the DHS budget will get passed.

14 thoughts on “Budget Watch, “Focus on defense budgets leaves Coast Guard high and dry” –The Hill

      • @ deSaint.

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  1. Time for the USCG to be move to the Department of the Navy methinks. One could be wrong, one often is!, but I think it is the service’s natural home.

      • Other countries managed to host the coastguard within the navy. From what I see the DoN is a better arrangement as the USN and USMC are separate services in the DoN. The USCG would just complete the trio.

      • Norway and India are the two countries I know of where the CG is essentially a branch of the Navy. There might be others, but in most nations it is separate. The other thing you might consider is that while it looks like the Navy gets a lot of money, generally the trend has been that the Navy and the Marine Corps have gotten smaller while the Coast Guard has actually gotten bigger.

  2. The new Congress does not seat until January. I think the new Congress, while it might support the Coast Guard, would have reservations about other parts of the Homeland Security budget, so the current Congress will almost certainly push it through before the end of the year.

    • Or NOT! After the lambasting by President Donald Trump of the Republican performance of Loosing the US Hse.of Rep. There’s not that many GOP in Congress STILL willing too standing behind Donald Trumps Band Wagon…

  3. having the uscg as part of the navy has been advocated before. if i remember right at least once by it’s own officers. if that happened I believe many of cg functions would either atrophy or be transferred to other agencies who have even bigger troubles when it comes to getting a decent budget. budget woes were a cg thing well before my dad signed up in 57. I think that the navy would farm out everything other then defense and maybe sar to anyone who would take it. and privatization would be a part of that. we are one of the most frugal agencies in gov. overall we give the taxpayer more bang for his buck. also privatization almost always ends up costing more or services are greatly reduced in the name of “efficiency”

    • I think it should be a separate in the Department of the Navy just as the United States Navy and United States Marine Corps are separate entities.

      If you spend time on defence blogs you will often come across a way of thinking where a service’s equipment and its operation is conflated with the service’s function and purpose and the ownership of the type of equipment and function of another service. (Not well explained, it is late here. Sorry.) For example the airforce flies planes so all planes should be flown by the airforce. The marines and army shoot rifles so the marines should be part of the army. So some would argue that the USN and USCG operate ships and boats, so the USCG should be part of the USN. But the equipment is a driven by the environment and not the purpose for which they are operated. So yes the USCG resembles the USN but they have different services to provide. If the USMC can sit within the DoN why not the USCG?

      • “If the USMC can sit within the DoN why not the USCG?” Because the Navy Department is primarily a war fighting organization, and that will always be their priority. When it becomes a choice between building cutters for the Coast Guard and building frigates for the Navy, their choice will be clear and consistent.

        I do think the Coast Guard has missed an opportunity to cultivate wider support by not highlighting our usefulness in wartime.

        I’m not unhappy with the placement of the Coast Guard in DHS, but it seems the DHS needs to have a clearer understanding of how important we are to DHS priorities and the Coast Guard needs to bend more in that direction and make DHS priorities their own.

        As I said earlier, I could see the Coast Guard as an independent agency with DOD. There are already a lot of theses. In addition to the Departments of the Army, Navy, and Air Force, “the DOD has four national intelligence services are subordinate to the Department of Defense: the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the National Security Agency (NSA), the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). Other Defense Agencies include the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), the Defense Health Agency (DHA), Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA), the Defense Security Service (DSS), and the Pentagon Force Protection Agency (PFPA), all of which are under the command of the Secretary of Defense.” That is a place we could be really competitive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense

      • US Coast Guard was established ~15-years after the US Navy. Whereas the USMC was established One Month after the USN. USCG has the Luxury as being a Enforcement Arm by International Treaty that most other countries trust. The US Navy “Doesn’t”…

  4. One must also remember Posse Comitatis. USCG can enforce laws and treaties, since it is not a Defense Department organization. Move it to DoN and it dissolves, because the white hulls will be painted grey and anything not fitting into “the fleet” will be gone, by not being replaced. In 50 years, nothing will remain of a Coast Guard. Not a good idea.

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