Bolster the Navy’s Patrol Forces–USNI

The US Naval Institute Proceedings has a short discussion of two possible replacements for the Navy’s Cyclone class PCs and the Webber class is one of them.

These might help us in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific too.

Don’t neglect the comments. Some good points there.


5 thoughts on “Bolster the Navy’s Patrol Forces–USNI

  1. Taking a naval auxiliary hull and converting it to a warship is tough enough, without making assumptions that are not based on facts. The JHSV nee T-EPF was NOT meant as a testbed for the LCS. The class was and is a intra-theater sealift ship nee transport.
    While the T-APF does have good capacity and internal volume, it does not have the tankage for long patrols. In point of fact the original operating profile was for 96 hour long missions.
    Since the JHSV need T-EPF are built to ABS HSNC construction standards, they don’t comply with the survivability requirements of the Naval Vessel Regs.
    Can a T-EPF be converted into a USS warship – yes with difficulty and great cost easily $75 million depending on how many NVR and MILSPECs are invoked?
    A better approach would be to modify one ship so as to be typed a Armed Naval Auxiliary. Modified MSC T-Ship rules. And adjust its offensive capabilities to meet that of an non-combatant. Then see how that performs.

    • What you say makes sense.

      My only thought is maybe the JHSV would work for drug patrols in the Gulf of Mexico and the Carribean? They wouldn’t need to be uparmed much, probably just some stabilized 50 cals.

      I don’t know what the endurance requirements for those missions is though.

      • The T-EPF deploy to SOUTHCOM AOR but not for patrols. They lift down there a number of mission adaptive packages to be offloaded for Southern Partnership missions. Hang around until units get redelployed. Lift them back to Mayport and north. Will know more after the 18th with 4th Flt ops speaks to us

  2. Wasn’t a former JHSV hit by a missile and burned to the waterline (thanks aluminum construction) in the Red Sea just a year or so ago? Yemen rebels supported by Iran and an Iranian missile, right? Seems the T-EPF needs to stay in low threat environments…

    The FRC might be a good starting point (hull and propulsion) for a PC design, but the weapons/sensor fit is different for a Navy PC, and the FRC has some endurance issues, which have been discussed here before. Might be cheaper to modify the FRc, but may be an opportunity for fresh look at mission needs and design from scratch for not a whole lot more money.

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