Photo: Sigma 10514 in Mexican Navy configuration, fitted with a BAE Systems Bofors 57Mk3 57mm main guna 12.7mm remote weapon system right behind it. The Mexican Navy opted for the Smart Mk2 radar by Thales. The Mexican “Long Range Patrol Vessel” will not be fitted with VLS cells but a Raytheon RAM launcher will be fitted on top of the helicopter hangar.
How much would it cost to turn one of our new construction cutters into a minimally capable frigate with at least some capability for anti-submarine, anti-surface, and self defense anti-air warfare?
I don’t have a definitive answer but we did get a good indication along with more information about Mexico’s new long range patrol vessel, a Damen 10514 design, that is close enough to our own Offshore Patrol Cutter requirements, that I thought it might have been an OPC contender.
Earlier we had an indication regarding the addition of VLS and Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (ESSM) when Chile ordered $140.1M worth of equipment to arm three ships. Plus we had an earlier post based on a 2009 Congressional Budget Office study (apparently no longer available on line) that suggested costs to replace the Phalanx on NSCs with SeaRAM and to add 12 Mk56 VLS and associated equipment, which could have provided up to 24 ESSM.
The Defense Security Cooperation Agency has issued a news release concerning the sale of weapons for the new Mexican patrol vessel, and the shopping list is a pretty extensive, including anti-surface, anti-air, and anti-submarine weapons.
Mexico –Harpoon Block II Missiles, RAM Missiles and MK 54 Torpedoes
Media/Public Contact: email@example.comTransmittal No: 17-63
WASHINGTON, Jan. 5, 2018 – The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Mexico of RGM-84L Harpoon Block II surface launched missiles, Block II Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) tactical missiles and MK 54 Mod 0 lightweight torpedoes for an estimated cost of $98.4 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
The Government of Mexico has requested to buy six (6) RGM-84L Harpoon Block II surface launched missiles, twenty-three (23) Block II Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) tactical missiles and six (6) MK 54 Mod 0 lightweight torpedoes. Also included are eight (8) MK 825 Mod 0 RAM Guided Missile Round Packs (GMRP) tri-pack shipping and storage containers; RAM Block 2 MK 44 Mod 4 Guided Missile Round Pack (GMRP); two (2) MK 32 Surface Vessel Torpedo Tubes (SVTT) triple tube launchers; two hundred and fifty (250) rounds of AA98 25 mm high explosive and semi-armor piercing ammunition; seven hundred and fifty (750) rounds A976 25mm target practice and tracer ammunition; four hundred and eighty (480) rounds of BA22 57mm high explosive programmable fuze ammunition; nine hundred and sixty (960) rounds of BA23 57mm practice ammunition; containers; spare and repair parts; support and test equipment; publications and technical documentation; personnel training and training equipment; U.S. Government and contractor representatives’ technical assistance; engineering and logistics support services; installation services; associated electronics and hardware to control the launch of torpedoes; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The estimated cost is $98.4 million.
This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a strategic partner. Mexico has been a strong partner in combating organized crime and drug trafficking organizations. The sale of these ship-based systems to Mexico will significantly increase and strengthen its maritime capabilities. Mexico intends to use these defense articles and services to modernize its armed forces and expand its existing naval and maritime support of national security requirements and in its efforts to combat criminal organizations.
Mexico intends to use the weapon systems on its Mexican Navy Sigma 10514 Class ship. The systems will provide enhanced capabilities in effective defense of critical sea lanes. The proposed sale of these systems and support will increase the Mexican Navy’s maritime partnership potential and align its capabilities with existing regional navies. Mexico has not purchased these systems previously. Mexico will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The equipment will be provided from U.S. stocks. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this proposed sale will require annual trips to Mexico involving U.S. Government personnel and contractor representatives for technical reviews, support, and oversight for approximately two years.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.
All questions regarding this proposed Foreign Military Sale should be directed to the State Department’s Bureau of Political Military Affairs, Office of Congressional and Public Affairs, firstname.lastname@example.org.
The big ticket items certainly made the head lines, but the ammunition for the 57mm is not cheap.
Fortunately for the Coast Guard, the Navy generally pays for our ammunition and weapon systems. The cost to the Coast Guard is installation and integration, plus primarily long term personnel and training costs.
David Brown used to say that a warship’s systems accounted for 60% of the cost. As you know and the other learned folk who comment here know too, it isn’t just the kinetic systems that have to be thought about aspects. Like rafting engines for ASW, how noisy is Bertholf class say? How does USCG damage control compare to USN? And so on.
I once read that RN thought the Leopard class were good ships for sending to visit South American ports because having two mounts made them look more impressive than they were. I am one of those who criticise the RN for under arming ships but having systems installed on a ship and being able to fight a ship isn’t the same.
cg cutters train to the same standards as usn ships. I’ve done both. only diff, dumb ass usn ship riders think they better, they learn better. while on my last ship one ship rider was enc nurse. we served together in the navy many years ago. him en2 me, enfn. good guy but kinda a dick. he drilled my engineroom 6 ways to sunday and we smoked every time.. speaking of smoke, there was a day many years ago when en2 nurse and enfn bigelow smoked dope in the rafters of a building of Brooklyn navy yard, but that is another story. 10 months in Brooklyn is a whole story.
Some more information on how much things cost. https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2018/02/21/state-clears-dutch-apache-upgrades-kuwait-boats-finnish-weapons/
“Finally, Finland has been cleared to spend $70 million on four Mk 41 Baseline VII Strike-Length Vertical Launching Systems, used to launch missiles off its upcoming fleet of new-build corvettes. Finland is in the midst of an ambitious modernization program for its fleet, and was recently cleared to purchase $730 million worth of naval weapons, although the country is technically still in a selection process for that equipment.”
Presumably that represents 32 VLS cells.
Damen and SAAB are making a bid to build four Damen 10514 corvettes, similar to the Mexican corvettes, for the Brazilian Navy. https://www.marinelog.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=29547:saab-and-damen-partner-for-brazilian-corvette-project&Itemid=231
This is about the purchase of helicopters to complement the long range patrol vessels, but it also indicates that Mexico contracted for eight ships. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-next-big-military-sale-mexico-26371
Approval for Evolved Sea Sparrow missiles and Mk 41 VLS. https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/smd/2018/08/10/missiles-for-mexico-gets-us-approval/
More here, including a Spanish language video about the ship. http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/august-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/6404-essm-for-mexican-navy-sigma-10514-pola-surface-vessel.html
The Mexican corvette is now reported to be 78% complete. https://navaltoday.com/2018/09/28/mexicos-pola-corvette-78-complete-as-final-dutch-built-module-arrives/?uid=171
Raytheon has delivered the SeaRAM launcher. http://seapowermagazine.org/stories/20181024-Ray.html
The ship has been launched. http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2018/november-2018-navy-naval-defense-news/6691-pola-sigma-10514-arm-reformador-frigate-launched-for-mexican-navy.html
A bit more info on the Mexican Corvette/light frigate. http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2019/january/6760-thales-to-build-new-mexican-ocean-patrol-vessels.html
First of class is completing sea trials. https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2019/december/7825-mexican-sigma-class-frigate-arm-reformer-completes-sea-trials.html
This says they plan to build eight by the end of the next decade.
The first of class has been accepted by the Mexican Navy. https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/02/damen-hands-over-pola-class-vessel-arm-reformador-to-mexican-navy/
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